The story of Jefferson County PVA Tony Lindauer and his triple-tract in the Triangle

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So how did Jefferson County PVA Tony Lindauer fare in the latest round of property assessments in one of the highest-taxed districts in Louisville? Did he get socked with a 100% increase on his property like some of his neighbors?  Or was his increase a lot lower?

I think you already know the answer.

Mr. Lindauer doesn’t just live on any old Highlands street – he lives on Everett Avenue in Cherokee Triangle.  A tree-lined street with a mix of grand, old houses and charming cottages. Gabled roofs, turrets, dormers.  Front steps as wide as a Volvo.  A neighborhood that is home to Jack Fry’s and Lilly’s, where a 25-year-old hipster waiter will ask if you have reservations when every table in the dining room is completely empty and then, smugly inform you that truffle oil is used to prepare the french fries.

You get the idea.

This is a very special little neighborhood that used to be dotted with reasonably-priced properties – a bungalow here, a shotgun there on tiny but tidy lots.  Not anymore.  Mr. Lindauer, Mayor Greg Fischer and their assessment goons have seen to it that once-affordable properties are now out of reach of the families who have been hanging on to them for decades.  If you’re retired or disabled and depending on a monthly $1000-ish check from Social Security, this latest round of shocking property assessments will, with absolute certainty, push you out of the Highlands.  I’m sure that’s one big reason for this assessment push.

Absolutely sure.

Some lucky people, however, are avoiding outrageous property value increases of 30, 50 and sometimes more than 100 percent that will mean completely unmanageable property tax bills.  Tony Lindauer, Jefferson County Property Valuation Administrator, happens to be one of them.

In 2001 Mr. Lindauer and his wife purchased three tracts of land in Cherokee Triangle: 1070, 1072 and 1074 Everett Avenue.  That’s THREE TRACTS of prime Highlands real estate which included 0.38 acres and a house for just $180,000.  If you don’t know about property values in Cherokee Triangle, let me tell you a secret: $180,000 was a super bargain even in 2001.

Here are screenshots of the house and the deed…

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lindauer15Mr. Linaduer’s super-sized lot is represented in blue.  The red lines represent the property boundaries of surrounding lots.

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Today, 14 years later, the land, 0.38 acres, has been assessed at just $75,000 which is very, very, VERY cheap compared to the land value (just land, not dwelling) of his neighbors.

Mr. Lindauer’s 0.38 acres is worth $75,000 which is comparable to $200,000 an acre. (Actually, $197,368 but I’m trying to keep the numbers simple.) 

Here are screenshots of his deed (Deed book/page 0902 0853) in 2007 when those three lots were consolidated into one parcel of land with a fair market value of $50,000.  $50,000?  REALLY?

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Let’s look at the assessed value of  Mr. Lindauer’s neighbor at 1076 Everett Avenue:

0.0877 acres is valued at $75,000 which is  $855,188 per acre or over 4 times the assessed value of Lindauer’s land.

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Below is the assessment information for another Lindauer neighbor at 1077 Everett Avenue.

0.0733 acres valued at $75,000 which is $1,023,192 per acre or over 5 times the value of Mr. Lindauer’s land.

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The acreage of these lots is calculated to the fourth decimal place.  Why is there such an precise measurement of the land if PVA is simply going to proclaim that any lot, any size, anywhere on Everett is worth $75,000?  Who benefits from that kind of fast and loose assessment of land value?  It looks like Mr. Lindauer, the PVA, does.  And who gets punished with disproportionately higher taxes for a flat-fee land assessment?  The little people, that’s who.  And we all remember what Leona Helmsley, the Queen of Mean, said about the little people and taxes.

Finally, we have 1081 Everett Avenue which pretty much sums up everything that’s wrong with the way the PVA is performing these assessments:

0.0654 acres valued at $75,000 which is $1,146,789 per acre or almost 6 times the value of Lindauer’s triple-tract-redefined-as-single-tract:

lindauer6The land value for this property tripled and the dwelling value almost doubled in three years on what was once a very affordable home.  Easily within reach of a family with a modest income.  According to the Jefferson County Sheriff’s website (the sheriff’s office collects the taxes), this house qualified for a homestead exemption prior to its sale in February 2015 for $70,000. I know  Too many details. But that tells you that the people who lived here were either retired or were disabled which is something you should know and think about.  Remember what I said earlier about pushing out the old people?  I’ll bet the real estate speculators that swirl around Mayor Fischer with their big, fat contributions are already salivating over all of the properties that will be on the market this summer and fall before those crushing tax bills are due.

Back to 1081 Everett.  This house is now worth $164,980. For a wood frame shotgun.  On 0.0654 acres.  The land increased by 200% in 3 years.  The dwelling increased by 66% in 3 years.  I know people like the Highlands which boosts home values but give me a break.  This is a shakedown and nothing more.  Shame on the PVA and Mayor Fischer for making this happen.

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Why did it take 11 years for Lindauer’s land value to increase by 200% even though 1081 Everett’s land value increased 200% in just 3 years?

Why did it take 11 years for Mr. Lindauer’s dwelling to increase by 61% but his neighbor’s increased 66% in 2 years? That doesn’t seem very equitable.

Why has Lindauer’s dwelling increased by only 11% with this latest round of assessments?

And why isn’t Lindauer’s land value assessed at a higher rate since it’s triple the size of a typical Everett lot?

lindauer8Does being the Jefferson County PVA comes with certain financial benefits?  Tax benefits?  Tax fraud-y benefits?

When you unleash a mooching machine on Louisville property owners while allowing the mayor, his rich campaign contributors and family members to receive six-figure discounts on their property assessments, you need to be very careful with how your property is assessed.

Mr. Lindauer has not been very careful.  And let me tell you another little secret: I think he’s a big jerk.  Look at what he said the other day about these assessments:

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One last question. Okay, two.  Why was the enormous half-acre lot at the corner of Grinstead and Cherokee recently assessed at just $37,500 when it was worth $78,750 in 2008? Neighbors with 0.1 acre lots have been assessed at $90,000.  Is the land cheap because the owners are generous contributors to Mayor Fischer’s campaigns?

I think I’ll get right on that.

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Click on the screenshot below to be redirected to the Jefferson County PVA website to begin your property assessment appeal process. You don’t have much time left to submit your appeal.  GOOD LUCK, READERS!

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87 thoughts on “The story of Jefferson County PVA Tony Lindauer and his triple-tract in the Triangle

  1. I am fighting my new assessment. It is ridiculous. I suggest we flood their system with disputes and stage a good old fashion sit-in. Trying to find the contact info for the yellow banner “shame shame” people. Does anyone have that handy?

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    • Could it be that due to the loss of tax revenue from real estate after the crash of ’08 the PVA is trying to get back a slug of money in one year by huge assessments ? This way the city won’t have to wait to long for more money ! Ken. R

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  2. Time to pack it up and leave, Lindauer. You’ve been cheating the city out of tax revenue for a long time. Shame shame shame.

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  3. Tony is NOT a realtor or appraiser; he pulls some strings, smiles , and shakes hands–he’s a politician plain and simple. He has no clue how his own office works. The people that work for him do all the work–and some of those dolts aren’t exactly rocket scientists. How do i know this?? I am a former employee at the jefferson county PVA.

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    • Interestingly, you did not include Mr. Lindauer’s improvement value…a little dishonest if I have to say so myself. Lindauer’s total assessment is $379,920. And none of you know a single thing about mass appraising, so you do a grave disservice to the citizens of Jefferson County in your attacks.

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      • Louisvilletaxpayer – Your math does not tell the whole story; you left out over three quarters of the value. If you are going to make a case, make sure you include all the numbers, not just the ones you find convenient to include. Your creditability is very questionable.

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      • Nice try, Frank. Land compared to land. Dwelling compared to dwelling. You are obviously struggling with the data. I did not. Do tell us why Mr. Lindauer’s three tracts of land, almost 0.40 acres, are assessed at the same value as the 0.06 acres across the street from his house.

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      • louisvilletaxpayer, I take it you have no problem with Mr. Lindauer’s total property assessment of $379,920, just how the land got valued.

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      • “Improvements” does not mean Mr. Lindauer had $300K+ in improvements to the property. It is the PVA way of referring to the “dwelling”. The dwelling is considered an “improvement” to the land. Improvements = dwelling = house. Nothing has been omitted from calculations as you are trying to imply but Mr. Lindauer will be pleased that you made a stab at confusing the readers. I am using primary sources that are public information and presenting straightforward comparisons using basic math. They’re called facts. It doesn’t matter if I have a problem with Mr. Lindauer’s assessment. What matters is that the assessments are not equitable and something needs to change.

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      • louisvilletaxpayer, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no clue as to the value of any property…improvement or land…period. Mass appraising is a complicated process that relies on modeling and is amazingly accurate on overall value. I would venture to say that very few individuals would sell their property for what it is assessed. That has been the case for the 40 years I’ve been in the business and I do not work for Lindauer. As for Louisville being a shitty city…why don’t you move to Detroit. I think you just might be happier there. There’s more to gripe about.

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      • Mass appraisals use uniform rates for land, not uniform values. A rate is a multiplier. It is multiplied against the area of the land being assessed. Simple arithmetic allows you to reverse the process: Take the assessed value, divide by the land area, and you get the rate. The article makes this point, and the math, very clear. Using a uniform rate, an area of land three times as large would have an assessed value three times as large. Clearly, a uniform rate was not used. You do not have to be an assessor to figure that out, or particularly brilliant. It is simple math, multiplication and division.

        Yes, improvements count for something. Not everyone has a big house worth $300,000. Likewise, not everyone has three tracts of land assessed at a much lower rate. In fact, for those with less land, the rate increase on the land will be more significant given that it is not applied uniformly. It will also be less fair. This is not difficult math, Frank; it is practical math.

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      • Louisville might be the next Detroit in a couple decades if crap like this keeps happening. Detroit filed bankruptcy because a significant amount of taxpayers left the city. If the City of Louisville continues to reduce or decelerate fair increases on a certain group of individuals in this town, they will have to cover the shortfall by greatly increasing assessments on us common citizens. When the city becomes unaffordable, regular folks will move to different locations (Indiana, Oldham county, etc.). They will take their tax dollars with them. When too many folks leave the city, “Welcome to Motor City South”.

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      • I owned two properties in then triangle area and experienced an average of 6% increase for seventeen years, inflation rate was about 5.8% then, now that property has a PVA increase rate of 89% for three years and the inflation rate has been 1.9 %. Do the math and tell me if this isn’t preparation for high end gentrification of the whole triangle area. maybe we need to give bruce miller another 90K$ to look for something for the city or the downtown developers to extra moving money to go from corner to corner at taxpayers expense. Critics of Mr Lindauer should be writing to Trip ADvisor, Rand Survey, Money magazine’s Unlivable Cities editor, and Forbes to let them know that property owners in Louisville would much better off considering Shelbyville or Indiana for their residence and new home construction, or even relocating to Indiana entirely. Wonder if our world famous bat factory has regretted their decision to locate to tax city.

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  4. It is hard to do an assessment when you as administrator (PVA) have no clue of what an appraisal or assessment is. It gets harder when you hire your friends and neighbors to pay for political favors and those people have no clue of the job at hand, Yes, the good employees got displaced by friends who don’t know about the job but they are the ones doing your assessments. That office is a joke since Lindauer is there and he need to go from office to prison.

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  5. I live almost directly across the street from Mayor Fisher. My valuation has increased substantially, twice over the past few years. Fisher’s valuation has been lowered significantly in the last round of assessments. Why do we tolerate this degree of corruption?

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  6. The PVA is also taking illegal photos of property & posting them. I know of a property in Germantown that based on the PVA’s own photos they have posted someone at the PVA’s office trespassed onto private property to take up close pictures of the garage (which is visable from the road) a parked car & the BACK of the home. They didn’t do that for any of the other properties. Something is fishy.

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  7. There is a house in my neighborhood owned by one of Tonys buddies. He hired his buddy on at the PVA when he fell on hard times. Funny story…the guy has had the best taxes on the street. His three apartment house is listed as two bed with two bath. The house was listed as sold at foreclosure, reset the tax base, but same owner the whole time.

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  8. I think all of this is hogwash. You obviously haven’t done your homework. The PVA does a mass appraisal assessment based on comparable sales in all neighborhoods. All land values are set by taking the median sale in each neighborhood and dividing it by 20%. Therein lies your land value. I am glad I took the time to do some research and get the real facts. You are really doing a disservice to the community by posting lies. I hope those of you interested in the truth will do your own research.

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    • I guess poor statistical methods would be a given in the PVA office since the guy in charge is armed with an English degree. Thanks for that fun fact, Jane. One more thing. I believe you meant “multiply by 20%” instead of “divide by 20%”. If we did the math your way the land values would be $375,000/0.20 = $1,875,000 per lot. STAY IN SCHOOL, KIDS.

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    • thank you my darling Jane, please expect your invitation to a private tax payer funded lavish dinner with Tony and the mayor in the mail soon.

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    • I am taking your advice and doing my own research, starting with you. What interest do you have in all of this? Do you know any of the key figures, or are you related to one of them biologically, or commercially or whatever? What area do you live in and how are your taxes faring? You must be on the receiving end of these tax dollars instead of having to be bled through no fault of your own. Why would you even care about the subject? Are you from around here, or maybe a paid agent somehow? Is there a way to get in touch with you for further research?

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  9. In response to concerns expressed by residents of the Cherokee Triangle about recent property assessments, the Cherokee Triangle Association is hosting a Neighborhood Forum
    with the Jefferson County PVA

    Tuesday, May 12
    7:00 – 9:00 p.m.
    Church of the Advent
    901 Baxter Ave.
    Louisville, KY 40204

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    • I just now saw this, is there any outcome from the meeting, please let me know if possible, our’s increase 83% with no additional improvements or even a new roof. Thank you

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  10. Jane, if that were the case, why would my neighbors land across the street (same size as mine) be assessed at $43,000 and mine is $75,000. Same neighborhood, same comps. I am in a MUCH less desirable section of the Highlands and my .139 acre lot is assessed the same as Tonys .38 acres…

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    • As I stated, the median sale of the neighborhood is used in the valuation of land. Median Sale X 20% gives you the land value. Mr. Lindauer’s total assessment is $379,920.00.

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    • Simply not true if you are in the same neighborhood. Unless, there is a reduction due to traffic, noise, etc…

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  11. May I ask what qualifications you have to report this information? I only stumbled across this on Facebook and after reading your article, and being an appraiser, I really am lost at how you came up with all these bogus, crazy figures. With residential properties, it’s the whole overall value, with, most of the time, improvements carrying the most weight over land. Now, if it’s a highest and best use, where land would most likely outweigh an improvement value…well, that obviously is way over your head and I’m not getting paid right now to educate you on what that means. I realize this is a ‘blog’ and hopefully most educated people reading this, realize that ‘blogs’ are nothing more than an outlet for venting, expressing your thoughts and a way for individuals to be a coward and hide behind a computer screen. You really need to understand how to properly value a piece of property, before you go and get people all freaked out. I read through several of your entries and honestly, the only ones that made any sense were the ones on JCPS. Stick to what you know and is easier to understand…because it’s obvious you know nothing about appraising property.

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    • These finer points of appraisals that you’re so proud to toss around are meaningless in the context of this blog post. There is absolutely no way to justify these recent and outrageous assessments that have been inflicted on Louisville homeowners. I guess the PVA is on the ropes and they’re depending on realtors and appraisers, just like you, to chime in on this post and attack me. I think that’s a great idea. It just magnifies the scope of this PVA shakedown and lets readers know that some people in Jefferson County’s real estate industry support sticking it to homeowners.

      These assessments are punishing people who live in affordable homes on their modest incomes. That’s not hard to figure out. These assessments are going to displace a lot of people and leave desirable Highlands and Germantown fixer-uppers in their wake. That’s also not hard to figure out. Every house that they leave behind spells a possible purchase in another part of the county. I’ll bet people like you and your realtor friends can’t wait to cash in on this real estate bonanza.

      Nobody needs to have an online appraiser’s license to figure out that the latest round of assessments are a scam. Next time you post, make sure you provide your full name, Sarah, and the name of your company so all of the rich people who received discounted assessments (and I can’t wait to publish that post) can send you their business.

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      • I think you bring up a good point, why don’t you provide your full name. If you are really only trying to help people instead of attacking, why don’t you come out from behind the curtain, Great OZ?

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  12. Assholes, biggest thieves in the world , government bureaucrats, business as usual, the taxpayer pays for everything. Inflated pensions, bonuses, free cars, gas, plane trips. The list goes on and on. They might actually work 30 minutes a day and take off whenever they want. And it doesn’t matter if they’re republican or democrat, they ALL do it! We need to boycott the voting polls. And that goes for college tuition too! But believe me, there’s lots more.

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  13. The politicians have figured out a way to raise everyone’s taxes without a vote. People, please vote the current assessor out. Any politician who raises taxes in this day and age with the advancements in productivity and technology in the workplace is not doing their job.

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  14. If you don’t know the answer to the last question in the article about who might live in the giant house on the corner… I can help with that. Last name Bingham. Yes, those Binghams.

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  15. Just want to address a couple things.
    1) the PVA in any county in Kentucky doesn’t “raise taxes”. They assess the value of property, then other entities such as schools, fire departments, libraries, etc., apply their tax rates to the value of the property, resulting in the property tax bill. The big complaints should be about the rates, not the property value, but that’s a discussion for another day.
    2) the Land value for these parcels classified as residential family dwellings are not assessed using a “square foot” method. It appears a site or lot unit of comparison is used, and this method of “land” valuation is common in homogeneous residential subdivisions. It is used when the market doesn’t indicate a significant difference in lot value even when there is a difference in lot size. A good majority of the parcels on Everett have land values at 75k, despite varying acreage. But that is only a small part of the total fair market value, which is what really matters.

    I won’t go into all the details of the Sales Comparison, vs. Cost Approach to property valuation, because there is a ton of information already out there from IAAO, the KY department of revenue, and other entities that delve into this and on Mass Appraisal in general. But it looks like the Land value is the big issue that is being harped on here, so I thought I might help clear the air.

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    • Smoke and mirrors. Nice try, though. Higher assessments mean higher taxes and every property owner on the planet knows that. Any middle school kid on a Quick Recall team armed with an Excel spreadsheet can whip up assessments that are more fair than the PVA’s by taking into account multiple variables – which, oddly enough, the present software doesn’t seem to do. Imagine that. It’s 2015 and the PVA can’t get its hands on software that uses simple algorithms. “A small part of the total fair market value”? It’s almost 50% of the value for people who own shotguns on narrow lots. We can play semantics games all day long, Dude. The PVA’s office is in hot water and they deserve it.

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      • No smoke and mirrors here. It is what it is. If you appeal your residential property tax bill on the basis of land value, this is the stuff they’ll cite and throw at you, all with legal precedent, KRS statutes and what-have-you. Property valuation is a weird thing and not an exact science, even with 2015 technology, and sales/assessment ratio studies used by the KY Office of Property Valuation as a check and balance. There is a human element for sure, but it doesn’t necessarily mean the PVA is out to screw everyone and give sweetheart deals to all his friends.

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      • louisvilletaxpayer…Reveal who you are! Only a coward would lead a public attack without an ounce of knowledge or understanding, and hide behind a blog. You people are a dime a dozen on the internet. Real bullies without faces or names. Come out from behind the curtain and let’s see how smart you really are.

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      • Frank, plenty of folks are speaking out about this outrage who are not bloggers. Metro Councilman Tom Owen (District 9) had this to say about the Mayor’s assessment going down 12% when almost everyone else’s in his neighborhood went up,”It’s just in the absurdities of absurdities,” he said. “That’s absurd!”. You can read about it here

        http://www.wave3.com/story/28999175/metro-council-to-pva-why-are-some-homeowners-in-sticker-shock

        The only people who could possibly defend this are probably friends of or political donators to these crooks.

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  16. This is great digging. Our property tax approach to assessing land values is the problem, and needs to be fixed. I’m not defending Tony L, but “lump” assessing land value, instead of using a uniform rate, was the method used by the PVA before Tony was elected – so he’s not to blame for introducing this part of the problem. Who’s responsible for remedying the assessment rules? Tony? The city council?

    As for the Bingham’s house, it seems their property was lumped in with Grinstead Drive land assessments. On Grinstead, only four houses in that area had land value assessments lowered – each to $37,500. All four were close to the Binghams. Two houses across the street on Grinstead (2 houses), and two houses on Grinstead between Cherokee and Everett. How are they lumped in with those when they have a Cherokee Rd address?

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  17. I bet you have no idea about the limitations in the tax statute either. Oh yeah, and as for your name…Shitty City…you can’t spell shitty without a bunch of shit! And, that is exactly what your blog is..

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    • Real fact: Urban Dictionary: shitty city
      http://www.urbandictionary.com

      shitty city. (a state of mind) it’s a magical place where people go after heavy drinking, and or a state of extreme toxication typically associated with a Parnado …

      I guess this explains it, you are so intoxicated you can’t differentiate the true from the false.

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  18. Picking and choosing the parts of data to suit your little narrative on your shitty city blog, then telling me I’m quite done after you get owned by me, frank, Jane, and KYAppraiser, with facts about property assessment, just shows what a complete joke this page is. Good job on all the fancy copying and pasting and 4th grade math you’ve done here though. It must have taken a lot of time. But since you’ve made up your mind that Tony Lindaur is out to get you, despite others showing you there is more to the story, there really is no hope of enlightening you, and I’m wasting my time. Good luck with the tin foil hats, punchy.

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  19. Jane, your reply to my comment ( “if that were the case, why would my neighbor’s land across the street (same size as mine) be assessed at $43,000 and mine is $75,000? Same neighborhood, same comps…”) was “As I stated, the median sale of the neighborhood is used in the valuation of land. Median Sale X 20% gives you the land value. Mr. Lindauer’s total assessment is $379,920.00.Simply not true if you are in the same neighborhood. Unless, there is a reduction due to traffic, noise, etc… ” I understood what you said but it simply IS true. I would be happy to refer you to the addresses I am referencing. There is no reduction in traffic or noise difference on the other side of my street.

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      • thank you sweetheart, and please expect your invitation to a lavish taxpayer paid dinner with tony and the mayor to be forthcoming in the mail. by the way, you do like Dom Perignon don’t you, tony does.

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      • I guess you must have attended the public schools. Not only do you
        not know simple math like the difference between multiplying and dividing,
        but you cannot spell either. You probably spell your plural words
        with an apostrophe, like “twin baby’s”, , or, “I have two puppy’s” lol.

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    • This just shows how little you know Jane. Land has a set value. Some of us have split lots, that’s why you may see different land values. If you add the multiple lots up that make up your neighbors property, you will get the same $75,000. I had the very same question, so I picked up the phone and called them.

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  20. To the people criticizing the author of the post, why don’t you educate us? Actually, what would be better is if the mayor made these processes transparent, as is his job.

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  21. You have it ALL wrong. Quit looking at your neighbors assessments and focus on your own. For the most part, the problem is not with the new assessed values. The problem is how low they were. Mine hadn’t been changed since 2008. We live in a desirable part of town. Homes are going to appreciate in value.
    Since I received my assessment letter I have been looking at the homes that have been going up for sale in this area. Guess what… The PVA, for the most part, is a bit low. I know some of us got bigger shockers than others. Remember, they can’t see inside our homes. They don’t know who has or has not done improvements. If they are wrong, appeal it. I did and I was pleased with the outcome. I was also pleased with the help I received over the phone.
    So please, before you get you panties in a ruffle, why don’t you realize that we have gotten a break for many years. We are just as responsible to pay taxes on fair market value as people in other neighborhoods.

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  22. We closed on our home in the Highlands in fall of 2013. Our assessment went up to our purchase price in spring of 2014. Now we are assessed at 66% higher! Anyone care to buy our home so we can move to Oldham Co?

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  23. There are many homes that have been excessively over assessed by the PVA this year causing tremendous stress for the families that own them. In many cases the PVA has not accepted recent appraisals as evidence of the appropriate value of the home when appealed. If you aren’t concerned because you weren’t assessed this year you will assessed in the next three as part of the new PVA “quad plan”. Excessive assessments and therefore excessive taxation is bad for everyone in the area.

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  24. Regardless of how the assessment is calculated, I think it is wrong that a person’s tax bill can increase by 100% in a single year. How are people supposed to budget when a significant item like property tax can increase by 50, 75, or 100% in just one year? I think the Metro Council should limit the percentage increase in the assessment (and the resulting tax) to a maximum amount; this would at least allow homeowners time to make a decision on if they can stay in their home or need to sell because of an increasing tax bill. If government is allowed to push increases like this without any restriction, ultimately the result will be a California type solution and tax receipts will drop significantly.

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  25. there are clear examples of the mass appraisal process being flawed. for instance, a home sold in july of 2013 for $550,000 being assessed at an $1,050,00 on january 1, 2015 without renovation. more disturbing than the flawed mass appraisal process is the pva insisting that it isnt flawed to the point that in some cases they have not accepted professional appraisals performed after the assessment as the value of the home. if you are still supporting this process and the current pva i hope you experience what those of us who have been over assessed experience next time around.

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  26. If you only focus on your own property , it will be ” divide and conquer”. Good citizens watch what government does and that includes awareness when it comes to our neighbors assessments and their relationships to people in office. The PVA should be watched closely because a corrupt PVA could do favors for people. We want fair and equal for all. If we are complacent we will get what we had before 1776.

    The PVA process is flawed and cannot be made fair and equal. Any time you feed subjective evaluations such as “excellent, very good, above normal condition etc. into a computer program it becomes “garbage in , garbage out.” On our block one of the best properties was assessed at $ 182 per sq. ft. That is Sandra Frazier’s property at the corner of Cherokee and Longest ( 1293 Cherokee Rd). It was gutted and completely rebuilt with the best materials. Those of us who have lived in our houses for years and have old kitchens and bathrooms received much higher evaluations per sq ft. Our house was finally lowered to the same rate as the Frazier house but does not come close to her brand new house. The problem here is that she was assessed way too low. Had she been assessed $ 245 per ft like her relative’s house that sold for 1.4 million last year (1261 Cherokee Rd) then a lot of the other evaluations would have made more sense. Some properties were lowered as much as $ 425000 without having to produce photos. Another , nice but much more modest house than Fraziers went from $ 825000 to $ 525000. That one had been the highest on the block at $310 per sq. ft. It was lowered without producing photos ( according to the owner ) They simply pointed to a comparable sale. It is still $ 200+ per sq ft. though and higher than the really perfect houses that were gutted. The way this process is done cannot work. We need to come up with something better!

    An example for the problem on our block is that a beautiful , large house sold for $ 290 000 ( 1222 Cherokee Rd.) This house is presently being gutted and totally rebuilt. It is unique from an architectural stand point. It was assessed at $ 70 per sq ft. It sold for $ 290000. The reason will be ‘ it was rental, commercial we cannot factor in this sale with appraisals of single dwellings , we are talking apples and pears here “. If you have three meters you qualify for commercial and your assessment will be ridiculously low even if your rental is in great shape and you live in most of the house. If you have two rentals in your house keep them! Once you are single family you cannot go back. Also , do not paint your house! Let it look like it is run down!

    Once 1222 is renovated and sold high all of us with the older houses will get bumped up because of all the high sales of totally gutted houses. ( now 5 on our block) The more that are being done the higher we get assessed. A house that sold low last year ( 1247 Cherokee Rd) was gutted , totally rebuilt and now has an in ground pool. It was assessed at $ 161 per sq ft. it was not increased a lot because the sale was last year. Does that make sense? It would had it not been totally rebuilt but should it now not be what the other perfect houses are?

    Those of you who understand the process, could you explain these discrepancies? And why do some people have to bring photos because an appraisal ( not a bank but regular appraisal), comps and letters from a realtor are supposedly not enough yet others get lowered huge amounts after presenting little evidence?

    This process makes no sense because subjective evaluations were made by people from the PVA walking by. The assessment process has to be done by sq footage and neighborhood because there are people who have bathrooms that the city does not know about and they get a lower assessment. My husband and I did a lot of work on our house ourselves. One gets punished for ones hard work. We had a our house painted and have a beautiful back yard. Are we assessed high because I like to garden? A garden is not a permanent fixture . When you have lived on a street for decades you know the houses very well, many from the inside too. You come to realize that the entire process that does not fit a historic neighborhood or older neighborhood. The city has lots of those.

    We would like to see the entire process changed and adopt a system that is similar to the one in California.
    The homestead exemption of $ 36500 is a joke . it will not keep older people in their houses. When a process is so unequal and all over the place the question arises ” is is constitutional” ?

    Finally , when it came to the lowering of the mayors property, at the city council meeting the answer by the PVA representative was that no comps could be found because the mayors property is so unique. Then at the the church of the advent meeting a few days later the same question was posed and the answer was that several comps pointed to lowering this property. Go figure! The PVA actually has nothing to do with the mayor . It answers to the state. The changes have to be made in Frankfort. If we had enough people to support a lawyer we could petition for a change but we had better come up with a solution first. I would love to see it happen but after a while people usually go back to their lives, give up and put up . It has to be a united effort. A lot of people who had their assessments lowered probably will not be interested in participating.

    Finally, one house that is in terrible condition on the outside was $ 222.89 per sq ft. It is rated “above normal for age” which means not in great condition. Why is that one higher than the best house on the block (1293)?

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    • I have been trying to educate myself on this process as much as possible, as I live in the area and too experienced a large increase. I honestly believe you would have to tell us more about your particular case in order for us to truly understand what they did wrong. I believe that some could provide pictures, as I did and it was enough, vs others who may need to provide other documentation.
      I have lived in this area my whole life, I love it, and I too am on a fixed budget as I enter my elderly years. That being said, we have to look at the big picture here. Should we be happy people fixing up the homes that are needing it and selling them, absolutely. The alternative would be much more devastating to us as we enter our “golden years”. Am I excited about a higher tax bill, hell no. Am I happy that homes are being rehabbed and our neighborhood is striving, absolutely. I would hope that we could all open our minds to what the truth is, being it a boring answer- they can’t they them all right. Personally, I’d rather them keep doing it this way than want to come
      Into my home or be intrusive on my privacy to collect information about
      my home. I experienced one field check after we built a sunroom on to the back of our home, they knocked and gave us a card- and I understood why they needed to do their check, but would I want that all the time. Oh no! Just think about it.

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  27. There were some who dismiss the land component of the assessment as a minor issue. However, if Lindauer’s land was assessed, proportional to its size, at a value per acre as in other examples (where the rate per acre was 5x as high), his $75,000 land value would alone become more like $375,000 .

    @Sharon “Quit looking at your neighbor’s assessments…” Oh yes, just keep your blinders on. Well, how the heck are you suppose to evaluate fairness and find corruption without looking around.

    The magnitude and suddenness of the tax increase (and that’s what it amounts to) is outrageous.

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    • You don’t know anything about your neighbors, as you think you do. They may tell you they haven’t appealed, but they have successfully. You can find scandal anywhere you want to look for it, if that is what you are looking for. I only ask that our main goal is not to stir up everyone on how we “think” things work and really educate ourselves. It’s just plain embarrassing when you start a fight without knowing what your fighting.

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    • Oh lord no JD, I would never wear blinders- that would just be dangerous. My driving is bad enough without blinders.

      I educate myself before I speak, no need to waste everyone’s time by spreading false truth’s.

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  28. Get ready Jefferson County everyone will see their taxes increase after all of this! If you don’t think that property assessments have been low in the past you had your head buried in the sand. Mine went up 50% and I cant complain, its still under the fair market value. I was paying too little for the past 20 years but was I going to complain. But a bunch of Liberal whiners will complain on forums like this when they think they are being treated differently that the someone else. So just watch and see the PVA office will correct this and make sure everyone is paying the correct taxes! By the way Lindauer’s lots on Everett are properly assessed, because its basically one house built in the middle of 3 small lots. It should be rezoned to one parcel.

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    • If Mr. Lindauer’s lots are assessed properly why were they three parcels for DECADES? Why were they combined three months after he became PVA? If you take the time to listen to the June 2, 2015 podcast of Mandy Connell’s show on 840WHAS, you’ll hear a caller describe how the PVA split his property into two lots and so they could charge him a single lot assessment for a small piece of property. Based on your comment, everyone should see higher assessments – so please explain why Mayor Fischer, his friends, his business colleagues, Mr. Lindauer and his business colleague have all received LOWER ASSESSMENTS? You people just keep defending this unethical system because the more you comment, the more I’ll keep posting. http://www.whas.com/media/podcast-mandyshow-MandyShow/

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  29. Check his neighbor John Elgin(which was the HR director) and Rhonda Hammack coworker assessments. All realtors work in the Research and Development that’s a conflict of interest.

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  30. Do you all know that for years the Jefferson County PVA under Tony Lindauer has illegally rigged the Board of Assessment Appeals by having one of their employees go illegally behind the closed doors to illegally participate in the private deliberations of the Board while the taxpayer is excluded. They got busted last year by the KY Attorney General (KAG), and written up as an opening meeting violation. See KAG website under 16-OMD-183. Corruption has run rampant under Mr. Lindauer.

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  31. In an earlier post, someone asked for tips. In regards to the county appeals process, find good comps that has sold within the last two years, the more recent the better. Take lots of pictures. If there is something that doesn’t show well like an extremely steep grade to the lot, submit a written request for the Board to make a personal visit. Legally they have to, but as most of us know who deal with them, they don’t always do legal. Also be very organized. Good luck!.

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